>You guys have to convince us first that mixing content+structure/presentation/logic is the best way to go forward in web development for the following reasons 1,2,3 ..etc.
There are a million articles and talks that provide exactly this. If you don't find them convincing that's fine, but don't act like no one is providing them.
> I see people advocating for dispensing of "separation pf concerns" & "progressive enhancement" in the name of "progress" and "modernization"
If that's what you see then you're looking in some weird places. The drivers behind React aren't just vague ideas like "modernization", they're the real-world benefits people are seeing when developing and using these new ideas. You're doing a disservice to everyone by fabricating the reasons behind these ideas just because you don't like them.
>in reality it's just a lame excuse to regress to a state of affairs that we guys fought too hard to combat it
This really just seems like a stodgy "get off my lawn, kids!" approach, which is at odds with your "I hate dogma" statements. Do you honestly believe that people are pushing in this direction solely as an excuse to regress things and make it worse? Even if you think that it is "regressing" things, you can't possibly be so conservative and entrenched as to actually believe that is people's goal, can you?
There are a million articles and talks that provide exactly this. If you don't find them convincing that's fine, but don't act like no one is providing them.
If you have been asked what's the most important convincing reason to switch to React, what would be your answer?
Please no mention of web apps vs web docs. We're already established that.
- It has been all about progress and modernization all the time. Progress in terms of productivity gains and speed was the motivation behind dropping jQuery centered architecture and going for an MVC framework instead and it's what's motivating the spawning of these frameworks as well. I don't know why this point is contentious one for you.
Do you honestly believe that people are pushing in this direction solely as an excuse to regress things and make it worse?
I didn't say that and I don't believe that they're intentionally pushing in this way to harm the industry and the community but I do believe that , while in the midst of chasing the latest trendy object, they won't realize that they're giving up very valuable stuff that benefited the industry for a long time.
There are a million articles and talks that provide exactly this. If you don't find them convincing that's fine, but don't act like no one is providing them.
> I see people advocating for dispensing of "separation pf concerns" & "progressive enhancement" in the name of "progress" and "modernization"
If that's what you see then you're looking in some weird places. The drivers behind React aren't just vague ideas like "modernization", they're the real-world benefits people are seeing when developing and using these new ideas. You're doing a disservice to everyone by fabricating the reasons behind these ideas just because you don't like them.
>in reality it's just a lame excuse to regress to a state of affairs that we guys fought too hard to combat it
This really just seems like a stodgy "get off my lawn, kids!" approach, which is at odds with your "I hate dogma" statements. Do you honestly believe that people are pushing in this direction solely as an excuse to regress things and make it worse? Even if you think that it is "regressing" things, you can't possibly be so conservative and entrenched as to actually believe that is people's goal, can you?