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Now Ontario wants to double the electricity bills to finance its nuclear refurbs and new builds.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/ontario-utility-wants-to-double-...



Ontario's Financial Accountability Office, which reports to provincial parliament and is independent of the government, concluded that at least for the refurbs:

> * The FAO estimates that the Plan will result in nuclear generation supplying a significant proportion of Ontario electricity demand from 2016 to 2064 at an average price of $80.7/MWh in 2017 dollars. (For reference, the 2017 Nuclear Price is $69/MWh and the current price of electricity for most residential and small business ratepayers is $114.9/MWh.)

> * The Nuclear Price will be higher than the average price of $80.7/MWh during the majority of the time that the reactors are being refurbished from 2016 to 2033. Post refurbishment, ratepayers will benefit from a lower than average Nuclear Price.

> * Overall, despite near-term Nuclear Price increases, the Plan is projected to provide ratepayers with a long-term supply of relatively low-cost, low emissions electricity.

> * OPG will realize a financial return from the operation of the DNGS and PNGS. OPG is owned by the Province and any return would improve the Province’s fiscal position. There is no significant fiscal impact to the Province from the refurbishment of reactors at the BNGS as it is operated by Bruce Power, a private sector organization.

* https://fao-on.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Nuclear-Refurb...

I was not able to find a similar report (pro or con) for new build, though I think the current plan with some SMRs in Ontario is dumb: if we decide on more nuclear, we should stick with big(ger) CANDU, as there's little point in small reactors in a large grid like Ontario.

Renewable programs have also cost Ontario ratepayers quite a bit of money, for not a lot of electricity generated:

* https://ospe.on.ca/advocacy/green-energy-contracts-fao-repor...


Last time Ontario built CANDU’s the utility went into bankruptcy and the taxpayers still haven’t paid off that debt.


Ontario Hydro did not go bankrupt.

It was broken up into "constituent" components in 1998, and the a lot of the nuclear plant construction financing debt didn't fit neatly into any one of them, so a separate legal entity was created: Ontario Electricity Financial Corporation (OEFC).

Ratepayers pay their electrical bills, the money goes to local utilities and entities like OPG and Hydro One, which in turn pay OEFC.

The claim that it was bankrupt was a line used by Mike Harris et co to justify privatization.


It was a government owned utility, it couldn’t go bankrupt in the traditional sense since it has taxpayer backing.

But its finances were completely underwater with no way out due to the debt from nuclear construction.

After the breakup the public were left with $38B in debt from nuclear construction. Which the subsequent nuclear company was unable to pay off, or it would of course not have been restructured.


> But its finances were completely underwater with no way out due to the debt from nuclear construction.

The debt from nuclear construction was being paid off then, just like it is being paid off right now: OEFC holds the debt and has revenue to pay it off. An article from someone who is not a fan of nuclear, but is also not a fan of Harris's non-sense:

> Harris claimed Hydro was so badly in debt as to be bankrupt. This claim was proven false by the final Ontario Hydro financial report in March of 1999 which showed that $1 billion of Hydro’s debt had been paid down and was on track to be paid off in 20 years. At the time critics said: “wouldn’t we all like to have a 20-year mortgage on our home because then you have an asset that serves you well!”

* https://rabble.ca/environment/the-nuclear-power-lie/


That’s an extremely rosy picture not aligned with reality.

You can’t compare it with a house mortgage.

They had X in earning potential in a set time frame.

The debt accumulated was X + Y.

After the restructuring the public were left as bagholders of the ”+ Y” since it would be impossible to pay it off reasonably under the current framework.

A new framework was created where this stranded debt was paid off as a forced separate line item on everyone’s bills.

In other words. They were bankrupt, if the state hadn’t stepped in then they would not have been able to amortize the debt in the expected timeframe.


> That’s an extremely rosy picture not aligned with reality.

"Chart 1- History of Residual Stranded Debt & Unfunded Liability of OEFC" seems to show a decreasing number:

* https://www.breckenhill.com/blogg.php

There is of course a lot of political history (OPC, LPC, etc) that makes the whole situation messy.

> A new framework was created where this stranded debt was paid off as a forced separate line item on everyone’s bills.

The Debt Retirement Charge was $0.007 or 0.7¢ per kWh.


Why are you this entire time avoiding official sources? Is it because you know the narrative you push is revionist history?

https://www.auditor.on.ca/en/content/annualreports/arreports...

A near 1 cent per kWh levy on every single kWh produced, across all sources, is a massive expense.

And that is after the maximum possible had already been extracted from the market.

Why are you so afraid of admitting that the nuclear construction in Ontario was an absolute economic shit show?




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