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This is missing parts of the conversation; but seriously Jacques, I've got no appetite for making this about you.

We both agree that it's easy to phish people. I disagreed then and still disagree now that the right way to do that is to embarrass them.

If I wanted to "shame" you somehow, I could have easily done that by naming names to begin with. The only intention of this submission was to warn people that you must be careful with your information because you never know who might be out to get it.

I don't believe you were out to snag people's financial data, but beyond that it was pretty tough to tell what you were after other than "teaching other people a lesson" (yes, this is paraphrased).

I fail to see what positive outcome could occur from essentially pointing and laughing at people because they fell for your scheme.

[Edit: I did a bad and edited this comment. Originally it only said "This is missing parts of the conversation", which is what jacquesm is replying to.]



It absolutely is not, that's a 1:1 log of my stuff and no parts were removed other than the lines not spoken by me or referring to me.

I don't think posting a full log of the channel is appropriate, if the other people that were there wish to publish their parts with their ids in there that's fine with me.


Okay, then why are people responding to me at the bottom of the log when I haven't said anything in it?


Because my name does not appear in those lines, so grep does not show them. Again, I'm not going to post other peoples words without their permission.


Okay, but just so we're clear: This is missing parts of the conversation.


working on getting permission to post an unredacted log. But you'd be hard pressed to distill malice out of my words, 'just so we're clear'.


I would be happy to have whatever conversation you'd like over email. There's not much point in bickering like this here.


I did not post the article above, and I did not use the words 'that's how it is being spun now', those were yours and they are what prompted this, you chose the forum.

The email you refer to which explained the whole thing in some detail was sent to the one person whose reputation might have been harmed but if I had not I would not have been able to tell if he had fallen for it or not (highly unlikely anyway) because identifying information is hashed to make sure that even I can't accidentally leak who fell for it.

My email is in my profile, feel free.


I don't think you need permission to post something that a person has said on IRC. In fact, I know you don't.


It's not a matter of need, it's a matter of courtesy, seeing as I've been called out for exactly that on HN before.




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