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In my utopia, everyone would have access to something like this and the internet would be free from the chains of corporate greed.

There's a lot to overcome (having everything be completely decentralized), but a person can dream...



50 years ago the notion of everyone having their own computer (or several!) would have been laughable.

Perhaps in the next 50 years people will have their own personal satellites in orbit and we will achieve your goal.


Getting a satellite into space is ~50,000$ for a 1U cube sat when I looked around. You might be able to get NASA or somebody to send it up for free if it's educational and they have room.

So it's getting cheaper for sure! While that's certainly not the cheapest, it's now within reach of small startups/passionate makers which is exciting!


More likely in 50-100 years is manufacturing capacity in space gets to the point that building a 1u satellite up there is way cheaper than sending from a deep gravity well like Earth's. I imagine at some point, rockets will only be used for sending people and other things that can't be transmitted or manufacturered.


Still going to pay transport costs on getting raw materials to space, although I imagine raw mats will be densers and the volume savings will reduce costs.


There's plenty of raw materials in space via asteroid mining, particularly everything you need for satellites.


But on currently on earth we have many massive factories to collect, refine, and process just the raw materials. Those factories will require massive amounts of resources to boot, and we don't start with any resources in space....


Right, so it's a bootstrapping question. If this was your long term goal, you'd right now be working on reusable rockets that you'd soon be using at cost to send up large quantities of infrastructure (cough cough Blue Origin and Space X, Space X being further along and openly talking about Starlink). Next step is mining asteroids for stuff like platinum and dropping it down to earth. Step after that is manufacturing with those raw materials in micro G. Now you have a complete manufacturing chain without gravity wells, and ostensibly a multi trillion dollar company.


This is the exciting future of space.

I love that comment sections are inevitably choked up with people say can't or won't since it's easy to say no.


curious - is a cubesat enough of a footprint to gather enough solar energy to act as an RF relay until the orbit decays?


You'll either need a mesh network (higher latency) or you'll need a backbone (which is an ISP) so you'll still run into similar issues. Not to mention at the lower bands you have limited bandwidth, not just for yourself but for everyone, so bandwidth congestion will become a huge issue if everyone used it for internet.

That said I do hate my ISP (and most others) with a burning passion so...


Could a mesh network be created on existing WiFi hardware? For example with a firmware refresh / OpenWRT? Then it’s just a matter of mass adoption / critical mass in neighborhoods.


Technically yes, practically no. Half duplex in a shared medium radio hardware just does not scale to neighborhood sized meshes well.


I'm trying to figure out a way to get small messages to transfer over P2P radio: http://radiomesh.org


I've been having great success with https://www.crowdsupply.com/ronoth/lostik

It has both a Lora mode and raw radio mode, I've been utilizing the raw radio mode.


Ok, neat! What language are you programming in?

I'm going to use Java, the tricky parts will be to build the frequency hopping (for me 410-525MHz) + power lowering (-1-+14/+20dBm) parts so that densely populated areas can function properly.


Largely NodeJS with https://www.npmjs.com/package/serialport but for some of the more ethernet-centric integrations I've been using C++. I haven't gotten to dynamic frequency setups yet, I've actually been lazy and using 2 of these on each side to act as separated TX/RX in different frequency bands. Certainly doesn't scale past a dozen but it made things a lot easier to get started.

I'm curious on your choice of optimization algorithm to balance cell size/interference with relay congestion.


You can decentralize the internet on the ISM bands; for example, https://www.nycmesh.net/


You have access to this, you just don't want it. I like the cushion of corporate incentive which holds up the vast majority of the internet infrastructure. It is very inexpensive to access it, and it remains relatively open. Just because you don't have experience operating or directing a corporation, doesn't mean they are all evil entities which ruin everything.


> Just because you don't have experience operating or directing a corporation, doesn't mean they are all evil entities which ruin everything.

This is HN, can we be above personal attacks please? You don't know me.


because finding a unpoluted wifi channel in a densely populated are is not hard enough already...




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